Posts by Lost in the fog

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The "Imperfect Men" Argument

by steve2 in

one of the most common "defences" of jw organization is that "the brothers" are imperfect yet still strive to follow god's word.

"sure, they make mistakes," so the argument goes, "but so did god's people in the past, including in bible times.

" the key point is their readiness to keep studying god's word and learning from their mistakes.".

The Watchtower quoted earlier in this thread went on to say that the spiritual food provided was at times wrong. This did it for me. February 2017 - "Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food."

We used to say about False Religion that if a person gave you a glass of water which was 99% safe would you drink it? Because the 1% poison could kill you.

So if the spiritual food that the F&D slave is dishing out is imperfect, then the question is Should I be eating it? And by the same logical argument above, the answer is pretty clear.

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What else is there to the so called "Truth"

by jdash in

first of all, i want to say thanks to all of you guys who gave me advice on my first post.

it really helped and i will try to use all of it.

now, i been doing research on what is false about the jdubs.

Lost in the fog

If you want to get a Kingdom intellinear of the Christian Greek scriptures, here is a good place to start.

http://www.soundwitness.org/jw/kit_download.htm

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How To Escape The Watchtower With Your Family.

by VW.org in

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to lurkers who may be here.

if you have woken up to the fact that the watchtower is not the truth and you want to get out with your family, this youtube video has good advice.

https://youtu.be/6uzkypatmvi.

Lost in the fog

Thanks. I will look at it tomorrow.

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A New World is here, and YHWH's version is out of date

by fulltimestudent in

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that highly emotive headline is just to have a wack at bible believers.

but the world around is showing so many signs of change, that it's certainly looking like something new is here.. for example, driverless cars and buses are now possible.

and its the buses that are already hitting the road.. watch this video, and say hello to the usa's olli:.

Lost in the fog

Of course CT Russell thought that the modern inventions of his time were indicators of the Last Days, including the inventions which would reduce the role of human workers.

And his interpretation of Nahum's prophecy as the coming of the American railways.

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Susanna and the elders

by Lost in the fog in

i stumbled across this picture.

the title and the subject matter seemed apt in view of recent developments in the news.. https://wellcomecollection.org/works/uhw3sjae .

Lost in the fog

I stumbled across this picture. The title and the subject matter seemed apt in view of recent developments in the news.

https://wellcomecollection.org/works/uhw3sjae

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Do Not Judge So That You Will Not Be Judged. Mth. 7:1

by VW.org in

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i do not believe in the bible but i will use the reasoning from the new testament to argue against watchtower.

the reason i will only use the new testament is that jesus replaced the mosaic law with himself.

even watchtower agree with this principle.

Lost in the fog

Regarding jury service VW.Org

It's down to the conscience these days.

We had one older brother who did all the research and before the judge gave him the "as a Christian I cannot judge other people etc etc," and was fortunate enough to be left off.

Whereas our congregation secretary made no bones about having served twice on jury service, and in particular a case where as he said, "we nailed the b****rd."

And yes, he has a reputation for a similar attitude in judicial committees I am told.

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Subliminal Messages

by Lost in the fog in

i was watching a fascinating ted-ex video on hypnosis and hypnotism with a friend.

my friend wondered if the jws new music might have a hypnotic suggestion buried somewhere in it which gets everyone in attendance to listen and absorb stuff that is totally irrational for the entire program.

ending with a second subliminal message in the final song along the lines of "you will snap out of this state when you next hear the word amen.

Lost in the fog

I was watching a fascinating ted-ex video on hypnosis and hypnotism with a friend.

My friend wondered if the JWs new music might have a hypnotic suggestion buried somewhere in it which gets everyone in attendance to listen and absorb stuff that is totally irrational for the entire program. Ending with a second subliminal message in the final song along the lines of "you will snap out of this state when you next hear the word Amen."

We decided it might explain why the ones who arrive late after the opening song usually sit there looking all around them as if wondering why everyone else is so enthralled and enthusiastic about things but they are not.

What do you think?

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Why did the Governing Body come behind the curtain?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

in the movie the wizard of oz, while the whole yellow brick road gang was being addressed by the great and powerful wizard of oz, the dog toto ran off to the side, pulled back on a curtain, and showed that a normal-looking humbug of a person was operating cranks and levers.

for a short while, the normal-looking man kept yanking levers and cranking cranks, and said into the microphone (which made the great and powerful wizard speak the same words) "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

i am the great and powerful wiz .

Lost in the fog

The brainwashed majority cannot see it other than what they are told it is. I happened to comment on a friend's FB post something about the GB. After which I was jumped on because I had suggested that they were not led by HS. In reply I pointed out that that November article a year ago the GB said that the food they produce isn't always perfect or true. My exfriend has since blocked me.

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